SWG: Songs in the Key of SWG

[sung (more or less) to the tune of "Everyone Knows It's Windy"]

Who's tripping down the streets of Old Coruscant,
Glaring at every Jedi he meets?
Who's reaching out to capture Count Dooku?
Everyone knows it's Windu.

Who got invited into the prequels,
Calling up Lucas out of the blue?
Who had to have a purple lightsaber?
Everyone knows it's Windu.

Mace Windu's a big bad dude
The Fetts found him very rude
He sliced off poor Jango's head
and left him dead
(and left him dead)
(and left him dead)
(and left him dead)
That Windu is one bad mutha--
(Shut yo' mouth!)
Just talkin' 'bout Windu....
(I can dig it)

Who quotes Ezekiel 25:17?
Who's coming back for XXX2?
Who's looking extra-crispy this evening?
Everyone knows it's Windu.

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And here's one for you hardworking ATK Dancers out there:

Armored Ithorians and Wookiees breakdancing,
Humans in hotpants and Bothan spies prancing,
Green female Twi'leks all tied up in strings,
These are a few of my favorite things....

Mon Cals who Salsa and Rodians who Hustle,
Trandoshans doing the Time Warp with muscle,
Zabraks and Sullustans bouncing on springs,
These are a few of my favorite things....

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Finally, since my Ode to the ATK Dancers wasn't quite silly enough, here's something new, sung to the tune of "The Major-General's Song" from Gilbert & Sullivan's The Pirates of Penzance:

For those active in the GCW:

I am the very model of a modern Rebel General
I got this way just yesterday from flying Jedi criminals
I know the Queens of Naboo and I quote the fights historical
From Mandalore up to Endor in order categorical.

Or if you prefer crafting:

I am the very model of a self-sufficient Artisan
I've crafting, Scout, and combat skills so that I'm not too partisan
I always keep my vendors stocked and quote a price historical
From crafting tools to vehicles in order categorical.

Stealthy Play in MMORPGs

I'd like to see more options for stealthy gameplay in MMORPGs that offer combat. I don't mean just adding specialized Rogue skills for detecting traps and opening locks -- I'm talking about adding gameplay that takes advantage of more detailed environments in order to use visibility of objects and mobs as an active gameplay element.

Some single-player games alrady do this to a limited degree in that the player character can sneak up on NPCs. This is an application of a "stealth score" versus an "awareness score." What's interesting about this from a game design perspective is how amazingly underused this mechanic has been. What if visibility vs. awareness could be expanded to apply to many more objects?

Imagine that a game's developers could imbue anything with a visibility score. This would create the ability for the developers (or possibly players) to be able to hide things -- there could be secret doors, loot dropped in the grass, false passages, unknown object capabilities, and so on, all just waiting to be discovered by an enterprising player with a sufficiently high awareness score.

In effect, visibility would become an important minigame within the overall game. In addition to straight-up combat, players would be able to look for objects and processes that would reduce their personal visibility or the visibility of certain kinds of objects they own, or increase their awareness of world objects (including characters).

This highlights the importance of of visibility and awareness modifiers in a stealth-enabled game. I'd suggest organizing the types of modifiers possible into categories like the following:

• Environment
• weather
• rain
• fog
• haze
• sandstorm
• darkness/light
• local noise
• distance
• water
• trees
• Actions
• crouching
• crawling
• swimming
• object use
• mounts/vehicles
• tools (survey tools, harvesters, etc.)
• weapons (visibility based on weapon type)
• emissions from using active-mode detection gear
• Abilities
• innate/passive racial abilities affecting both visibility and awareness
• learned/active skills (/camouflage, /maskscent, etc.)
• Gear
• Visual
• camouflage clothing (per environment)
• chameleon suit
• binoculars
• searchlights
• light amplification goggles (night vision goggles)
• infrared/ultraviolet detection
• Sonic
• audio detectors (detects conversation, movement)
• active noise-cancelling sound projection
• Smell
• scent detector (guard animals)
• Electronic
• radio detector (detects nearby communications)
• radar detector (detects nearby use of active radar)
• Radiation
• Geiger counter
• Mass/density
• pressure sensor
• Motion
• motion detector
• Other
• awareness-increasing drugs (should have negative side effects)

In a stealth-enabled gameworld, everything would have a "visibility profile" from which its visibility score is constructed. The profile would include numeric ratings indicating the degree of all the physical ways in which a thing exists in the world:

• visual (with what environment does the thing blend in best, and to what degree?)
• sonic (how much noise does the thing make?)
• smell (does the thing have a smell?)
• motion (is the thing moving?)
• electronic (does the thing emit radio signals?)
• mass/density/weight (does the thing reflect a radar "ping" or activate a pressure sensor?)

Certain types of things (NPCs and players, and perhaps certain creatures) would be able to consciously modify some of these ratings (through skills and gear). Other modifiers would be applied based on factors outside the thing's control (racial modifiers, location/environment, etc.). After all modifications, the thing's scores in every area of visibility would be added to produce the final visibility score.

Similarly, the final awareness score would be derived from the thing's natural awarenesses of each category of presence in the world, modified by any detection gear or enablers used and by any actions taken to increase awareness (active observation vs. normal activity).

It should be noted that these ideas apply most obviously to PvE play, but dynamic modifiers could allow it to work for PvP as well. In a way, this would become a sort of ECM/ECCM minigame.

It seems to me that a game that offered such a robust system for enabling stealthiness just might be so much fun that even non-combat players would be willing to give it a try. Am I wrong about that?

SWG: Five Fixes for Core Systems

To start with, every suggestion I make is intended to help move SWG toward better achieving the following goals:

• Every player should always be able to find something interesting/rewarding to do.
• The meaningfulness -- and consequences -- of a player's actions in the game world should increase with that player's power.
• Gamers and MMOG industry insiders alike should be able to point to SWG as an example of how to develop and operate a mass-market online game service.

Achieve those goals, and you will have an entertainment product that satisfies everyone: more happy players means more revenue for SOE/LEC. Everybody wins.

So in no particular order, here are five specific actions that SOE can take with SWG to achieve these goals:

1. Players must feel they play a meaningful role in an exciting story set in the Star Wars universe.

One of the hardest issues all MMOGs face is figuring out the right balance between gameplay and story. Some online games can focus on pure DOOM-like gameplay, while others are able to focus on pure storytelling... but SWG can't afford to dismiss either of these two entertainment modes. SWG requires both strong gameplay and a compelling story within which the gameplay moves.

SWG is an online game, so of course gameplay (skills, weapons/armor/tools, PvE, PvP, etc.) is required. SWG does a fairly good job here, and will be even more effective once JtL ships.

But it's also true that SWG is based on George Lucas's adventure movies, which owe their popularity in large part to the interesting story Lucas tells and the fascinating characters through whom that story is told. Players of a Star Wars-based game absolutely expect to be participants in story content that brings the Star Wars universe to life for them, and right now SWG is not delivering the story content necessary to maintain the Lucas legacy of telling an enthralling story.

Furthermore, looked at purely as a MMOG, the story is what keeps players returning to the gameplay. Players will always be able to race through gameplay content faster than SOE developers can craft it -- what keeps players coming back to that gameplay is the story in which the gameplay is set. The story is what gives the gameplay meaning. Story is what tells players that their game actions have purpose and value beyond merely grinding to the top of some pyramid. Story is what keeps players coming back to the game to reprise content they've already seen. In short, gameplay attracts new subscriptions, but story is what maintains subscriptions over the long term. If you want your game to endure, you need story. And in the case of SWG, you need something even more specific: you need Star Wars stories.

Ways must be found to give players the feeling that they are part of a real Star Wars story. How do we do that? Simple: let players make choices, and let there be real consequences in the game world for those choices. When consequences individually and in the aggregate clearly affect the player's part in some greater storyline in the Star Wars universe, when player actions can be seen to have real meaning within the game world, you've made the player part of a Star Wars adventure that they'll recall with pleasure for years to come.

A really satisfying adventure story is full of hard choices expressed through exciting actions, where a person's character is revealed through the choices they make and the sides they take. Star Wars succeeded because it told that kind of powerful and exciting story. If SWG doesn't fulfill its destiny as a son of Star Wars, then it will fail to achieve its full potential as a key component of the Star Wars saga. And that would be a shame.

2. Individual quests/missions must be integrated into a larger, fully connected activity structure.

Here's a specific suggestion: Instead of thousands of completely disconnected missions and unrelated quests, these NPC-directed player activities ought to be integrated into a set of overarching Star Wars-specific stories, which themselves are integrated into the full Star Wars saga as we know it though the movies and books.

Early/easy missions can seem to be unconnected. It's appropriate for new players to see only the most local effects of their actions. But as players advance in power, they should begin to realize that what appeared to be unconnected requests were really individual parts of something much larger going on, and that participating in these missions makes the player a part of the larger story. Missions to kill off bandits in a particular area could turn out to be preliminary action for establishing a secret Rebel base secure from prying eyes, and a player who realizes this should have to decide whether he wants to support that storyline or not. Missions to craft specialized components could turn out to be an attempt by the Empire to flood the market in a Rebel-occupied area with spare parts to destabilize the local economy, or to generate a spare parts inventory for the construction of a new factory for crafting star destroyers. Again, a player who suddenly comes to understand the role she is playing in a larger world has the chance to become more connected to that world... and that's how you retain paying customers.

These realizations that players have about the local meaning of what they've been doing should eventually begin to open up larger-scale missions -- let's call them quests. Quests should be riskier than than the initial missions, and should require the player to make more intense choices -- do you help those who need it even when it could injure you or your friends? Or do you put your personal desires above everything, even if it means abandoning the larger effort to the "bad guys?" The more quests you take, the more you learn about the grand storyline in which those quests are related, and the more you learn, the better your odds putting the pieces together to succeed at those quests.

These quests, if successful, should lead to the third and highest level of mission, the adventure. Taking on an adventure means you have entered the part of the story that reveals the global challenge behind all the local stories. Succeeding in an adventure should not be about what gear a player has -- it should depend on his or her choices when confronted by hard decisions. Success, in fact, should not necessarily mean living or dying -- maybe it's about realizing who your character really is. Just as Luke and Han and Lando had to make ultimate choices about the kinds of persons they really were when they finally understood what was at stake, so should the player of SWG be able to reach a point of understanding a story enough to work with other players to successfully determine the outcome of a major Star Wars story, and that outcome should have a major impact on the character's game life. As in all great literature, the outer struggle should be a mirror for the inner journey.

Finally, a practical note on structure: quests and adventures ought to come in parts. To get to Part H, you need to have completed Parts C and G, each of which depends in turn on having completed Parts A and B, and Parts D and E and F, respectively. Developers should also consider making some parts of a multi-part quest or adventure depend on having certain skills, not all of which any one player could have at one time. This would encourage either grouping or trying new skills over a long time, both of which are positive acts within SWG. As a nice bonus to the gameplay value of multi-part quests and adventures, structuring stories as pieces also allows developers to organize missions/quests/adventures as structured segments of coherent storylines -- basically it's a way to sequence the acts and scenes of a story.

Ultimately the right to be a part of an adventure, a major story set within the Star Wars saga, ought to have to be earned by good story-based gameplay. Success should depend not on grinding, nor on reading "The Answer" to some static NPC question from a Stratics or Allakhazam database, nor on massed brute force or exploiting game holes, nor on buying uber armor/weapons, but on a demonstrated willingness to make tough choices and accept the consequences of those choices within the game world and within the big story in which that player chooses to play a part.

Now that would make missions satisfying.

3. "Hero" NPCs from the movies and books must be more active in the game world.

Another component of rewarding players for participating in the story part of the game would be the chance to interact with a character or characters from the Star Wars movies and books.

The developers deserve some credit for realizing that the characters in Star Wars media are a major draw in a game based on the Star Wars universe, and for including these characters into SWG gameplay. But I think it's fair to say that using these "hero" NPCs (by which I mean named good guys and bad guys) as mere static mission-givers severely underestimates their value in generating the sense in players of being part of a big Star Wars story.

Let players doing missions meet minor players in the saga; let players doing quests meet important secondary characters; and let players taking on an adventure meet the major "leads." If I take a mission to craft a power regulator for a Y-wing shield generator, maybe 1 in 20 times I'll bump into Nien Numb or some other relevant but minor character. Other kinds of missions would occasionally lead to meeting other minor characters relevant to those kinds of activities, and quests and adventures should offer the chance to encounter (or be summoned by!) even more powerful movie/book characters appropriate to the player's choices.

This would serve two important goals. First, it's a good way to guide players toward the information they need to succeed at the next level of missions -- it's a way to help tell the current story. Second, these characters should be used as rewards for long-term participation in the game. Serve the Rebellion effectively, and maybe Admiral Ackbar commends you... fail at too many missions of high importance to the Emperor, and maybe Darth Vader shows up to extract an "apology" from you. Even neutrals should be able to get into the act: "good" neutrals ought to be pushed by both Empire and Rebellion to join up, while neutrals of questionable virtue should be able to sign on with one of several competing crime syndicates.

In short, player access to hero characters ought to be much more strictly rationed than is currently allowed. As a starting player, I shouldn't be able to go talk to Princess Leia just because I read her static address from some offsite game forum -- I ought to have to earn the right to interact with her. There definitely need to be rewards of this type to motivate low-level players, but rewards should always be commensurate with risk: meeting Luke or Vader ought to be very hard to do, but these meetings should make a huge difference in a character's life when achieved.

4. "Content" must include non-combat players.

SWG will be a stronger, more long-lasting game if it respects players with different playstyles. Yes, for business reasons it's necessary to be seen servicing combat-oriented players, but it is also absolutely necessary to show some respect to players with more creative or commercial or social interests.

Where are the "dungeons" for crafters? Where's the equivalent of a Hermit Quest for entertainers? Where's anything like Jabba's themepark or Nym's themepark or the Imperial or Rebel themeparks for merchants? When will medics get any content even remotely resembling the scope of the Corellian Corvette or Deathwatch Bunker?

This is the one aspect of SWG in which I am the most disappointed. SWG's developers began with an interesting crafting system, a dynamic player economy, and a meaningful role for entertainers, and those were good things... but since launch all three of these major game areas have been badly neglected except in minor bugfix or profession-specific ways. There have been virtually no broad, Core Systems-oriented enhancements for players with these gameplay styles since SWG launched, and that is just wrong. It's disrespectful to the many players who enjoy crafting and commerce and social gameplay to be so badly ignored when major enhancements are doled out, and that disrespect translates directly into the business problem of loss of revenue when these players decide that SWG doesn't want them and they leave.

SWG is gradually bleeding away its long-term player base because it has failed and continues to fail to recognize the value of these kinds of players to long-term sustainment of a mass-market MMOG. If this lack of respect for non-combat players continues, then once the initial spike of subscriptions for JtL passes, SWG will be dead within two years. And it will be dead because its long-term players -- the crafters and merchants and entertainers -- will have left SWG for other MMOGs (such as Second Life) that show more respect for their preferred playstyles by offering content appropriate for those playstyles.

5. The software development process must improve to reduce the number of bugs introduced with changes.

I don't believe I need to say much here. We all know how important it is in the intensely competitive MMOG industry to be perceived as "fun," which means two things: plenty of content, and few bugs.

Content I've addressed above... but bugs have already nearly killed the perception of SWG as fun. SOE's software development process must be improved, or even JtL will not be enough to save this game.

The technical means by which bug rates can be reduced are not complicated or obscure; a Google search on "CMMI SEI" will show you any number of organizations that will be delighted to explain how to achieve and sustain an effective software development process, which would make a huge dent in the number of bugs unleashed on players. The harder part is convincing SOE management to embrace this level of professional commercial software development.

Doing it right means being able to say "no." As in, "no, this feature has not been adequately tested and we will not include it in the next hotfix." As in, "No, all of our source code reviewers have not fully studied these changes, and we will not include them in the next hotfix." Being able to say no to your boss is hard (trust me on this). But having to explain to your boss why he won't be getting a bonus because too many players refused to resubscribe to a buggy game is even harder.

Requirements reviews; preliminary and critical design reviews; peer review (including documentation); QA testing, source code and documentation configuration management -- every one of these steps slows down your development process... and every one of these steps helps insure that the code you do turn over doesn't break. SOE is doing some of these, but it needs to give them teeth so that everyone on the development team from the most junior coder to the Senior Producer (including LucasArts producers) insists that they be respected even when doing so affects the release schedule.

Achieve that in a highly complex software product like SWG, and SOE can be acknowledged by its subscribing customers and entertainment industry peers for how it respects its customers by giving them a bulletproof product.

SWG: Species-Specific Abilities

WarFerret wrote:
is it any wonder that 2 species make up two thirds of the population?

What you said.

It's a shame that species distinctiveness doesn't play more a part in SWG than it does. Right now I can count three areas where a character's species matters:

• Maximum HAM point assignments


• Special commands (esp. /wookieeRoar)


• Visual appearance (this feature really is very well developed)

It's good to have these features -- in particular, the visual distinctiveness of the various species is very well rendered, and is a credit to the developers. But so many opportunities remain undeveloped! Here's a collection of possibilities just off the top of my head:

• Innate capabilities:


• additional species-specific commands


• /monCalAwareness ("It's a TRAP!")


• /zabrakDetermination


• /twilekPersuasion


• /ithorianDepression (kidding!)


• physical/mental characteristics:


• thick skin or scales treated as armor


• resistance to or awareness of Force Persuasion


• environment-based effects:


• movement rate across sand, water, etc.


• temperature (heat, cold effects)


• light (too much reduces vision, sees better at night, etc.)


• Innate skill modifiers -- meaningful bonuses/penalties to skills:


• combat


• crafting


• entertaining


• healing


• taming


• sensing


• hiding


• piloting


• Species-specific movement animation:


• walk cycles


• combat animations


• emotes

I could go on, but you get the idea.

As with most topics in this forum, this particular thread should be important to SWG's developers because it offers ideas that, if implemented, improve both roleplaying and gameplaying. An improved sense of the distinctiveness of one's species would make experiencing life as that species more immersive. And the valuable bonuses and complicating penalties that every species (with the possible exception of Human) should have would significantly improve gameplay by letting players make interesting choices.

Roads in MMORPGs

Roads should not be considered some mere "nice to have" feature appealing only to a few players who keep asking for "immersion." Roads are important to creating memorable game experiences because they serve double duty as both a storytelling and a gameplaying device.

The concept of The Road (as the alternative to the concept of Home) is one of the most enduing concepts in all of human literature because it is symbolic of all journeys. Homer sent Odysseus out on the road 2500 years ago in The Odyssey because that was how to make interesting things happen to Odysseus as he tried to return home after the fall of Troy. When Chaucer looked for a setting that would cause a group of very different people to interact, he set them on a road in The Canterbury Tales.

Roads are still crucial to modern literature as well. Jack Kerouac's On the Road is a literal example, but The Road has served more symbolic purposes. When Tolkien wanted to tell a tale about how ordinary persons can find themselves capable of extraordinary deeds, he set Bilbo Baggins on the road out of the Shire in The Hobbit... and then sent Frodo down even greater roads in The Lord of the Rings. Tolkien even has Bilbo singing a song called "The Road Goes Ever On." And as Frodo remarks wistfully, "Sam, remember what old Bilbo said, 'You have to watch yourself, Frodo. Once you've stepped out onto the Road, there’s no telling where your feet will lead you!'"

As forms of literature, MMORPGs similarly benefit from having roads or paths that are safer than the areas "off the beaten track." This is important in a story-telling sense, because journeying farther from home by taking roads to far-away places is the outer journey that mirrors the character's inner journey of personal change. But it's also useful in a gameplay sense, because players know they can find adventure by stepping off the safe road and traveling into the deep, dark forest.

Whether implemented for roleplaying or for pure gaming, roads are invitations to adventure!

SWG: The Path to Becoming Force Sensitive +

Malicoris wrote:
On a side note, I'm curious as to why non-combat proffesion oriented players would even want to be Jedi to begin with. You think they carry lightsabers to chop down trees to build houses with? I mean, you got bounty hunters, the whole galactic civil war thing goin' on, and so on an so forth. What're you gonna do when a BH picks your name off a terminal, throw crafting tools at him?

Just on a pure gameplay level, Force Sensitivity could offer bonuses to crafting. In SWG, where only Master-level stuff sells, the advantages really matter.

But more importantly, who says being a Jedi is ONLY about fighting? Being a "keeper of peace" in the Old Republic wasn't just about chopping off limbs, which any buffoon with a reasonably sharp piece of metal can do -- it was primarily about having the wit to understand difficult situations and determine the course of action most likely to resolve the situation peacefully.

Sometimes peaceful resolution isn't possible, at which point "aggressive negotiating" may be appropriate. In fact, I would argue that negotiations with a lightsaber should probably be the most common type of diplomacy practiced by Jedi in SWG, and for three reasons:

• this isn't the Old Republic; it is a time of unrest in the galaxy


• SWG is a game, not a conflict resolution simulation


• Star Wars and SWG are primarily about experiencing thrilling adventure

So sure, Jedi in SWG ought to be able to fight. But the fighting ought to be for a reason; even Dark Jedi don't just whip out the lightsaber and start randomly killing things without some larger purpose in mind. If being a Jedi is about solving problems (rather than just random murder), then there ought to be other gameplay styles available to Jedi that are other ways to solve problems.

The developers of KOTOR understood this concept (though they didn't take it as far as I'd have liked). If you wanted to play KOTOR in full-frontal hack-n-slash mode, you could do so by building your Strength/Dexterity to be a Jedi Guardian. But KOTOR also let you focus on gaining enhanced Force powers through improving your Intelligence/Wisdom as a Jedi Consular. You could even choose a balance between the two playstyles as a Jedi Sentinel. So why shouldn't SWG take a similar approach to welcome both combat-oriented and puzzle/social-oriented players?

If you're not forced to be a great diplomat to be a Jedi in SWG, why should others be forced to be great fighters to be Jedi?

SWG: Orbital Bombardment and Defense of Player Cities +

Marjaliisa wrote:
What if a player city does not wish to take part in the GCW?

The more I think about it, the more it appears that orbital bombardment can only be factional combat. It's basically long-range, indirect fire PvP.

So it looks like the concept of a city's "opting in" is required for the idea of orbital bombardment and city defenses to work, since otherwise you'd be subjecting people's stuff (their structures) to PvP without their necessarily having declared a faction. The question is how you allow cities to opt in.

One way would be simple: key it off of having a city shield generator. If you plant one, then that's your city's declaration that it's factional. And if you have two styles of city shield generator -- one Rebel, one Imperial -- then that determines your city's faction.

Another (and probably better) way to let a city declare that it is a factional city would be to allow Mayors to put it to a vote -- if the referendum passes, then your city (whether you voted that way or not) goes to whichever faction was stated in the proposed "law." This way you could change your city's faction without having to rebuild/redeed a city shield generator of the "correct" type.

Marjaliisa wrote:
What if I am in a player city (just passing through, for example) that gets bombed by neutron bombs, although I don't want to participate in PvP?

One of the fundamental rules of SWG has been that you should never be forced to participate in PvP. In practice this has been interpreted to mean that no player can directly cause wounds to another player through combat actions unless both players have explicitly and deliberately signed on with either the Imperial or Rebel factions (either covertly or overtly). It doesn't matter how weird it looks; if you're neutral, no other player can touch you.

Therefore it's reasonable to expect that this rule would apply to orbital bombardment as well. If orbital bombardment is a factional attack -- and I can't see how it could not be -- then if you're neutral and strolling through a city that's in the process of being bombed back to the Stone Age, you can lie down in the street and enjoy the light show, because not a blessed thing will happen to you.

On the other hand, if you do happen to be factional, then no matter what faction you are you should take some damage from orbital bombardment striking a city where you happen to be walking. That would be part of the risk of choosing to be a soldier in the GCW.

Where it gets tricky is when we're talking about a neutral player with structures (a house, harvesters, factories) in a factional player city. Should that player's belongings be subject to damage from orbital bombardment?

I would say yes. This would depend on it having been made clear to each citizen that he or she was living/building in a city that had declared one way or the other in the GCW. This could be done through email, and possibly through posted signs and/or system messages -- "Attention! You are now entering an Imperial municipality!" Players who did not wish to be subject to orbital bombardment would have to move out of town, but maybe that's part of what a city thinks about when it decides whether or not it wants to declare a faction.

Here's another related issue: Suppose you're away from SWG for a week. You've paid up your maintenance for a couple of weeks, but suppose that as soon as you were gone your city got hit several times from space and your house lost all its maintenance. In a few days it would drop to 0% condition -- so what happens to your stuff?

Situations like this make me think there'd have to be some kinds of caps on how much damage orbital bombardment could do. It should be enough to cause some pain, but not enough to do irrevocable damage (like losing all your stuff).

Is there a better way to go than to score bombardment damage as maintenance or condition points?

Marjaliisa wrote:
some players might feel that this is just a scheme to get (or force) them to buy JtL.

Possibly. Others might see it as a way to allow player cities participate in JtL in an interesting and useful way. So I suspect this one is a wash, but it's still helpful to remind us that sometimes perceptions matter.

Marjaliisa wrote:
Other than that, seems like a cool idea. Maybe it could apply to bases, but not cities? Or cities that have bases associated with them?

I like it. The idea of letting a city declare itself as factional by associating that city with a factional base seems like another reasonable way to signal a city's willingness to participate in the GCW.

SWG: Orbital Bombardment and Defense of Player Cities

Proposal:

Allow players with starfighters to launch to space from hangars in player cities that are being struck by orbital bombardment.

Features:

• Starship Engineers can craft different kinds of bombs


• "bomber"-type ships can drop bombs on player cities


• different types of bombs do different types of damage:


• ion bombs -- reduce condition of city's shield generator


• concussion bombs -- reduce condition of structures in area of effect (once city shield is down)


• "neutron" bombs -- reduce player/creature pet HAM in area of effect (once city shield is down)


• Armorsmiths can craft city shield generators


• Weaponsmiths can craft city defense guns


• player cities can place city shield generators


• player cities can place city defense guns


• player cities can place a "hangar" structure


• player starfighters can launch to space from hangars as a group


• only designated members of the squadron (not just any passing ship owner) can use the city hangar


• squadron will spawn in space near the bombarding ship(s)

Benefits:

• JtL starfighter pilots get to attack something besides other ships


• player city-based starfighter pilots get to defend their city


• cities have ways to defend themselves (city shield, city guns, city starfighter squadron)


• provides appropriate role for bombers


• new objects for Starship Engineers, Armorsmiths, and Weaponsmiths to craft


• has clear value to the GCW


• showcases iconic Star Wars content (visuals/sounds/methods of Imperial attack on Hoth base)

Challenges:

• need to synchronize fire between servers:


• when a ship fires, it should affect the city a few seconds later


• when a city gun fires, it should affect ships in orbit a few seconds later


• create new art assets (bombs, city shield, city guns, hangar) and code to make them functional


• allow some bombardment damage but not instantanous obliteration of the target city (balance)


• allow player cities to survive a bombardment even if no member of the city owns the JtL expansion

Questions:

• What if a city doesn't have a hangar/guns/shield? Should there be a cap on orbital bombardment damage?


• How can cities defend themselves (or even survive) if no one in the city has bought the JtL expansion?


• Should Armor/Weaponsmiths be able to make city shields/guns if they don't own the JtL expansion?


• Should squadron ships be able to launch when the city isn't being attacked?

Assuming the challenges (including the ones I didn't think of) can be overcome, would this be a sufficiently valuable addition to gameplay to jusify the costs of development?

A Categorization of Changes to Star Wars Galaxies, v1 +

Just to offer an idea of whether my categorizations made any sense, here are the specific assignments I made for Ranger. (Note: These aren’t all changes in each release -- just the ones for Rangers.)

Publish 1.0
Add Mod Fix
1            Missions: New Artisan, Entertainer and Explorer mission terminals
 
Publish 2.0
Add Mod Fix
        1   Fixed an involuntary PvP exploit with /rescue
    1       The cost to craft camps has been increased
    1       Each scout in a group with loot permissions may harvest from a corpse
    1       Harvested group kills yield 60% their normal resources and XP
    1       Fishing now grants Wilderness Survival XP for catching fish
    1       Camp XP accumulation rates have been increased
    1       Scouts now get survival XP for crafting camps and traps
    1       Base equation for maskscent changed to check on maskscent skill mod
    1       Delay to mask scent again now reduces as maskscent skill mod increases
    1       Much more likely to successfully maskscent if prone, slightly less likely if running
    1       XP rewards for maskscent have been lowered, given that success rates have increased
    1       Increased cost of some Ranger skills because they were too low
1           New Ranger command: /conceal -- apply high quality camouflage to himself and others
        1   Ranger's ability to see the special attacks of creatures via examine has been fixed
    1       Ranger's Field Bioscience skill tree has been renamed Tracking
1           New Ranger Ability: /areatrack -- local clues help determine identity of nearby creatures
 
Publish 2.6
Add Mod Fix
    1       Restored creature resource harvesting to previous levels
    1       Ranger areatrack: no longer lists you when you look for players
    1       Ranger areatrack: has a much shorter delay in returning results
        1   Ranger areatrack: displays non unique NPC names correctly
    1       Ranger areatrack: displays the 50 closest results in crowded areas
        1   Ranger areatrack: no longer displays items with an invalid distance of -1m
    1       Ranger areatrack: ignores pets and vendors
 
Publish 3.0
Add Mod Fix
    1       The flora component of camo kits has been removed
    1       Camo kits now yield more uses and have a wider experimentation range
        1   Camo kits now work properly when crafted in a factory
        1   The duration for conceal has been fixed, it was half what it should have been
    1       Notification when a creature begins to stalk them
        1   Non-aggro creatures will not attack you when mask scent or conceal breaks
    1       Aggro creatures only attack when maskscent or conceal breaks within 40 meters
        1   Fixed creatures breaking maskscent/conceal when scout/ranger leaves interest radius
 
Publish 4.0
Add Mod Fix
    1       Crafting camo kits no longer requires flora components
 
Publish 5.0
Add Mod Fix
    1       Mask scent and conceal no longer break in combat
 
Publish 6.0
Add Mod Fix
        1   Fixed Level display when Ranger/Scout examines a crafted pet
    1       Players can now milk certain herbivores
    1       You must be scent masked or concealed to milk
 
Publish 7.0
Add Mod Fix
        1   Fix to show a creature to show as tamable if it is ever possible for a baby to be spawned
        1   Fixed Level display when Ranger/Scout examines a crafted pet
 
Publish 8.0
Add Mod Fix
        1   Fixed a problem where traps could not be thrown indoors
 
TOTALS
Add Mod Fix
5   23  12 = 40 total changes

You're free to question any of these categorizations, of course. I'm under no illusion that everyone would agree with the way I did things -- my only assertion is that I think I came close enough to good objectivity and accurate assessment to make these numbers generally useful.

As I said, anyone who think I'm cooking the numbers or just boneheaded in my categorizations is totally free to put together their own analysis!

As to your specific objections: I can't disagree with any of them. High-quality camps are indeed one of the key abilities of Rangers, and are now considerably less useful after the new features given to other professions.

It's a shame that Scouts and Rangers don't have abilities allowing them to play a more useful role in SWG -- especially roles with a real Star Wars flavor.

A Categorization of Changes to Star Wars Galaxies, v1 +

Aakhperkare wrote:
The love factor for CH's is COMPLETEly out of whack. It wasn't love, it was a nerf...your statistics are borked...

C'mon, why not tell us what you really think...?

Well, fine; if you don't like that calculation, how about one where every Mod (which is the most common location for nerfs) is weighted by -1 when calculating Love?

CHANGES BY PROFESSION

PROFESSION	CHANGES	PERCENT	ADD	MOD	FIX	LOVE
Jedi	82	10.0%	30	29	23	144
Droid Engineer	45	5.5%	12	12	11	59
Merchant	31	3.8%	9	10	12	47
Artisan	29	3.5%	7	9	13	39
Image Designer	19	2.3%	8	7	4	37
Creature Handler	99	12.1%	6	47	46	29
Chef	14	1.7%	6	6	2	26
Entertainer	12	1.5%	2	5	5	25
Politician	13	1.6%	5	5	3	23
Architect	14	1.7%	4	7	3	16
Ranger	40	4.9%	5	23	12	14
Bounty Hunter	39	4.8%	3	20	16	11
Dancer	8	1.0%	2	3	3	10
Doctor	8	1.0%	2	4	2	8
Bio-Engineer	43	5.2%	2	22	19	7
Marksman	6	0.7%	1	1	3	7
Carbineer	10	1.2%	0	3	7	4
Brawler	31	3.8%	2	18	11	3
Tailor	9	1.1%	1	5	3	3
Smuggler	16	1.9%	1	9	6	2
Armorsmith	38	4.6%	3	19	16	1
Squad Leader	2	0.2%	0	1	1	0
Weaponsmith	33	4.0%	1	19	13	-1
Combat Medic	19	2.3%	1	12	6	-1
Pistoleer	13	1.6%	1	9	3	-1
Medic	20	2.4%	1	13	6	-2
Musician	12	1.5%	0	7	5	-2
Commando	31	3.8%	2	21	8	-3
Fencer	5	0.6%	0	4	1	-3
Swordsman	4	0.5%	0	4	0	-4
Rifleman	14	1.7%	1	12	1	-6
Scout	39	4.8%	3	29	7	-7
Teras Kasi Artist	15	1.8%	0	11	4	-7
Pikeman	8	1.0%	0	8	0	-8

Or if you're just determined to find some way to prove that the developers hate your favorite profession, how about a calculation where Mods and Fixes are considered pure essence of evil and penalized at -1 each?

CHANGES BY PROFESSION

PROFESSION	CHANGES	PERCENT	ADD	MOD	FIX	LOVE
Jedi	82	10.0%	30	29	23	98
Droid Engineer	45	5.5%	12	12	11	37
Image Designer	19	2.3%	8	7	4	29
Merchant	31	3.8%	9	10	12	23
Chef	14	1.7%	6	6	2	22
Politician	13	1.6%	5	5	3	17
Artisan	29	3.5%	7	9	13	13
Architect	14	1.7%	4	7	3	10
Dancer	8	1.0%	2	3	3	4
Doctor	8	1.0%	2	4	2	4
Marksman	6	0.7%	1	1	3	1
Entertainer	12	1.5%	2	5	5	0
Tailor	9	1.1%	1	5	3	-3
Squad Leader	2	0.2%	0	1	1	-2
Pistoleer	13	1.6%	1	9	3	-7
Fencer	5	0.6%	0	4	1	-5
Swordsman	4	0.5%	0	4	0	-4
Rifleman	14	1.7%	1	12	1	-8
Pikeman	8	1.0%	0	8	0	-8
Carbineer	10	1.2%	0	3	7	-10
Ranger	40	4.9%	5	23	12	-10
Smuggler	16	1.9%	1	9	6	-10
Musician	12	1.5%	0	7	5	-12
Combat Medic	19	2.3%	1	12	6	-13
Medic	20	2.4%	1	13	6	-14
Teras Kasi Artist	15	1.8%	0	11	4	-15
Brawler	31	3.8%	2	18	11	-19
Commando	31	3.8%	2	21	8	-19
Armorsmith	38	4.6%	3	19	16	-20
Bounty Hunter	39	4.8%	3	20	16	-21
Scout	39	4.8%	3	29	7	-21
Weaponsmith	33	4.0%	1	19	13	-27
Bio-Engineer	43	5.2%	2	22	19	-31
Creature Handler	99	12.1%	6	47	46	-63

There, now Creature Handlers show up as appropriately punished. Better?

Of course, Jedi are still the golden children of SWG. Even more interesting, Squad Leaders don't look too bad in this light, do they?

The moral is that you can make numbers do anything you want. That's why no one should put much stock in the "Love" rating. (I certainly don't.)

Again: I encourage everyone to focus on the raw numbers -- but don't read too much into them. The point of this survey isn't to prove that anyone's favorite profession or game feature has been treated shabbily; it's to get a better idea of overall trends.